Podcast
              
            Evaluating Maths Hubs' impact with the EEF
The NCETM’s Dr Jen Shearman, Dr Paul Rowlandson and Sue Evans discuss the upcoming EEF-funded trials of two important Maths Hubs programmes in 2025/26
04/04/2025
          In this episode, the NCETM’s Dr Jen Shearman, Dr Paul Rowlandson and Sue Evans discuss the upcoming EEF-funded trials of two important Maths Hubs programmes in 2025/26. The conversation explores the role of external evaluation, the challenges of conducting randomised controlled trials (RCTs), and what the findings could mean for maths education in England.
A transcript (PDF) of this episode is available to download.
Show notes
Taking part in the discussion:
- Jen Shearman, Director for Evaluation and Impact, NCETM
 - Sue Evans, Assistant Director for Primary, NCETM
 - Paul Rowlandson, Assistant Director for School and Professional Development, NCETM
 - Julia Thomson, Senior Communications and Marketing Manager, NCETM.
 
Episode chapters
- 00:00 Introduction and welcome
 - 01:12 Meet the team and overview of the EEF trials
 - 01:57 Understanding the EEF and its role
 - 03:31 The NCETM's involvement with the EEF
 - 06:11 Introduction to the SKTM Secondary Non-specialist Teachers Programme
 - 09:28 Introduction to the Mastering Number at Reception and KS1 Programme
 - 12:02 Challenges in conducting the trials
 - 22:01 Hopes and expectations from the trials
 - 31:04 Conclusion and how to get involved.
 
Useful links
- Specialist Knowledge for Teaching Mathematics Secondary Non-specialist Teachers Programme
 - Mastering Number at Reception and KS1
 - Blog post on the EEF trials: Going for gold standard
 - Evaluating our programmes in 2025/26
 - EEF trial of the Secondary Non-specialist Teachers SKTM Programme
 - EEF trial of the Mastering Number at Reception and KS1 Programme
 - TIMSS 2023 Report
 - Coordinating mathematical success: the mathematics subject report (2023)
 - Explore previous episodes of the NCETM podcast in our archive.